Memocracy was in full effect in Athens. The members of the demes came together on the pnyx regularly, and if they didn’t show up, they got fined. I think when he proposed his ideas to the king of Syracuse, there was peace (which is very rare during those times). When Plato proposed his idea to the Athenian assembly, they rejected it because their system was working well enough already. Shortly after, during one of the Sparta vs. Athens civil wars, Plato proposed Laws to Athens, which also got rejected. I’m taking classics and its amazing