My impression is they have been living beyond their means for a long time and the governments have been spending more than they take in and borrowing the difference. The people that have been lending them money are now getting a little reluctant to continue doing so and interest rates to do it are going up. And the citizens don’t want to make the sacrifices to ease the situation. So they’re stuck. I think the last Italian debt had a high interest rate on it and few takers. Same with Greece and Spain I think. If they can’t borrow money they can’t roll over the debt that’s coming due and they may default on some of it. If they default the game is up.